THE RUNDOWN
- Taylor Swift explained why she chose the color orange to represent her The Life of a Showgirl era and how it reflects the period during which she wrote the music.
- Swift revealed how she first hinted at her new album during her final Eras Tour show.
- The singer discussed the project, her relationship with Travis Kelce, and how she approaches Easter eggs during her two-hour podcast episode appearance.
Taylor Swift revealed the release date and 12-song tracklist for The Life of a Showgirl during her New Heights appearance this evening. She also demystified one other choice she made for her new era: its color.
Jason Kelce, Travis Kelce’s the older brother and New Heights co-host, asked Swift why she picked orange. “I’ve just always liked it, Jason,” she responded. “It feels like kind of energetically how my life has felt. And this album is about what was going on behind the scenes in my inner life during this [Eras] Tour, which was so exuberant and electric and vibrant.”
She told Jason and her boyfriend, Travis, that she started hinting at her new era during her final concert when she exited through an orange door.
“I was pretty happy that [my fans] noticed that,” she said. “I was like, trained them well.”
She explained the symbolism of that choice: “I would leave the stage every night going down the elevator lift. That’s how every single Eras Show ended, except for one, except for the last one, where I exited through a door, an orange door to be specific. And that actually was an Easter egg. Basically, the reason why I chose to exit that way is because I kind of wanted to give a little subliminal hint to the fans that I may be leaving the Eras Tour era, but I was also entering a new era.”
Earlier in the episode, Swift explained how she approaches Easter eggs—and why they never point to her life outside of work.
“The art of the Easter egg is that there’s do’s and don’ts, right?” she said. “Like, I’m never going to plant an Easter egg that ties back to my personal life. It’s always going to be towards music or...something I’m coming up with, something I have coming up, a plan I have coming together. Something that you don’t know I’m saying for a specific reason that you’ll hear later, and you’ll go back and be like, ‘Oh my god.’”
She added that she’s drawn to numerology, saying, “I love math stuff. I love dates.” She pointed out that even she and Travis, whose jersey number is 87, have a special numeric connection: her favorite number, 13, and 87 add up to 100. They’re “numbers that have a specific significance,” she said.
Watch the full episode below:
